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28B Mixed-Fermentation Sour Beer

Foeder Pale Sour — Cube 2 / 5 Magics + Muscat

Brewed 2026-05-09 Batch · 20 L Matt Paterson

Grain bill

Weyermann Barke Pilsner Malt 7.3 kg 66.4%
Weyermann Wheat Malt Pale 2.7 kg 24.5%
Harraways Rolled Oats 1 kg 9.1%

Adjuncts

Whirlfloc 1 tablet @ 10 min
Yeast Nutrient per label @ 10 min
Lactic Acid (80%) 2.5 mL

Hop schedule

Hop 60 min
Pacific Jade 27g

Yeast

5 Magics + Muscat grape mixed culture~650mL culture (pH 3.8) pitched 2026-05-17

Water additions

Calcium Chloride 3 g
Lactic Acid Mash water to pH 5.3; sparge water to pH 5.5

Tasting notes

2026-06-05

First sample (day 19): SG 1.004 (from OG 1.056, ~93% apparent attenuation), pH 4.01. Tastes and smells very good — subtle sourness, leaning toward Belgian yeast esters with spice/clove. No funk, no sweaty/horse-blanket character; possibly a hint of Brett. Yeast still rafting on the surface, no pellicle yet. Paul's suppression of the lacto in favour of the wild Sacch reads as successful so far. Plan to leave it and sample again in a month — Brett complexity can take 6 weeks to 3 months to develop.

About This Beer

A spinoff of the Foeder Pale Sour I brew. The wort was made on 2026-05-09 with the intent that both cubes go into a 90L ex-whiskey barrel from Dave at Garage Project’s Wild Workshop. The barrel is still inbound, and rather than hold all 46L of wort indefinitely, cube 2 (~20L) has been diverted and pitched onto Paul Fantham’s 5 Magics + muscat grape mixed culture.

Cube 1 (~22L) remains sealed for the barrel. A re-brew of the foeder recipe is planned to replace the diverted volume when the barrel timeline locks in — Jamie Rickard and Paul Fantham have offered to help brew the re-fill.

The Wort

Identical to the parent foeder brew — see Foeder Pale Sour I for the full hot-side process. The grain bill is 66/25/9 Barke Pilsner, Pale Wheat, and rolled oats. Pacific Jade at 27g for 60 min gives ~18 IBU of clean bittering.

Cube 2 was no-chilled from the same kettle run as cube 1 and sat sealed for eight days before being opened for pitch.

Measurements at opening (2026-05-17)

Value
Volume into fermenter~20 L
OG1.056 (six points above the 1.050 target)
Wort pH (gravity sample)6.0 (pre-acid, pre-pitch)

The OG coming in high is worth flagging — useful efficiency-recalibration data for the re-brew that will fill the barrel.

The Culture — 5 Magics, Third Generation, Plus Muscat

Paul evolved the 5 Magics trub through a third-generation brew (the one after Matt and Jamie’s collab was kegged in February). He then captured the Gen-3 trub and combined it with organic muscat grapes — fresh grape skins carrying their own wild microflora (Hanseniaspora, Pichia, possibly Saccharomyces uvarum, plus environmental lactobacillus and pediococcus). The new mixed culture was stepped up over several rounds in DME starters, then split into two jars. Matt received one.

Value
Culture volume in jar~650 mL (including residual starter)
Culture pH3.8
Lineage5 Magics Gen 3 trub + organic muscat grape skins + several DME step-ups

Pitch — 2026-05-17

Cube 2 transferred into a 30L all-rounder in the upstairs room (the upstairs wild workshop), alongside the House Wild Sour ferment that’s been running since February.

Pre-pitch: 2.5 mL of 80% lactic acid (≈ 0.5 tsp) added to the ~20L wort in the fermenter to begin dropping pH from 6.0 before pitching the culture. No probe reading taken after the acid addition — sampling the wort would mean opening it again and losing volume / risking infection.

Pitch: the full ~650 mL of culture (with its own starter at pH 3.8) added to the wort.

Estimating the post-pitch pH

A simple H⁺-conservation mix of 20 L at pH 6.0 with 0.65 L at pH 3.8 gives a calculated pH ≈ 5.22, but this ignores the substantial buffering capacity of wort — in reality the buffer absorbs most of the added acid, pulling the actual blended pH higher (probably 5.7–5.9 pre-acid).

Layering on the 2.5 mL of 80% lactic acid (~0.026 mol of acid into ~20 L of buffered wort) the empirical rule of thumb is roughly 0.3–0.5 units of pH drop per mL per 5 gallons. The realistic post-pitch starting pH is in the 5.0–5.4 range.

This is a calculated estimate, not a measurement — the goal of the calculation was to confirm the lactic addition wasn’t going to overshoot into territory that would inhibit the culture. Actual readings will be taken via sample as fermentation progresses.

Reading Log

DateDaysSGpHNotes
2026-06-05191.0044.01First sample. Tastes/smells very good — subtle sourness, leaning toward Belgian yeast esters with spice/clove. No funk, no sweaty/horse-blanket character; possibly a hint of Brett. Yeast still rafting on the surface, no pellicle yet (still looks like yeast, not a film)

At day 19 the gravity is already down to 1.004 from OG 1.056 — roughly 93% apparent attenuation, so the wild Saccharomyces has chewed through nearly all the sugar fast. pH sits at 4.01, comfortably inside the calculated 5.0–5.4 post-pitch estimate’s downward trajectory and right where a young wild sour should be before the slow acid producers do their work.

The tasting character is the more interesting story. Paul deliberately worked to suppress the lactobacillus in favour of cultivating a good wild Sacch, and that intent is showing: clean Belgian-leaning esters and spice/clove, a subtle sourness rather than an aggressive one, and none of the sweaty-funk or horse-blanket notes that can dominate an early wild ferment. As Paul put it — sourness is the easy part to create; the complexity of a wild Sacch and Brett are the characters that are harder to domesticate. The faint Brett hint and the yeast still rafting (no pellicle yet) both say this is still early.

What’s Next

Sitting in the 30L all-rounder in the upstairs wild workshop. With the first sample in (day 19, SG 1.004 / pH 4.01) the primary Sacch work is essentially done. Plans:

  1. Leave it undisturbed and sample again in ~a month (early July), recording SG and pH.
  2. Watch for a pellicle forming and track whether the faint Brett character builds — Brett complexity typically takes 6 weeks to 3 months to really show, so the interesting flavour development is still ahead.
  3. Subsequent samples every 4–6 weeks, recording SG and pH.
  4. Compare progression against the House Wild Sour sitting alongside it — same room, same temperature, but very different cultures and starting gravity (1.056 vs 1.048).

Lineage